In fact, I didn’t get a lot of anything done.

Because every single non-work moment of my day was dedicated to not-falling-apart. Not sinking into the abyss. ”

This! This! Thank you! I’ve been trying to figure out why it is that I can’t seem to get stuff done beyond showing up to work and sleeping and this is the reason. I can work with this!

That is exactly how I experience this “public thriving” that you are up to on this site…especially the $ side.

I really appreciate it!

Sarah G.

also, seems i am quickly becoming a Havi stalker. any points/suggestions to make my stalking more eficient?
.-= ryan´s last blog ..Day 4 – fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck =-.

It’s horrible to feel stuck, and not having enough money makes you feel powerless to boot, but it’s still worth paying for the things that are worth buying (and I’m pretty sure that Havi’s things are worth buying). Your need should never become a loss for someone else, but rather a chance for both to benefit.

Life’s lessons are always free. Having an interpreter to tell you what they mean and how to handle them is a bonus. I’m just glad it’s one that’s available. And, there’s an awful lot for free on the blog…something in every post!

Not so long ago I received an email from someone who started out saying that charging for the ceremonial work I do is out of integrity and that his teacher told him to walk away if this was the case. I wrote him back saying that there has always been an exchange between the ceremonial leader and the participants and in this day and age it’s monetary. He then responded that he could only follow his teacher’s advice but also said that he couldn’t afford it. So I invited him on a donation basis. He was very happy with this and offered to gift me one of his handmade flutes. A week later on the day of the ceremony he didn’t show up…

In another blog I read recently the writer stated that you pay for experience and expertise. I totally resonated with that too.

We (teachers, coaches, ceremonialists, etc.) have spent years, decades, chiseling away at ourselves to learn a skill or achieve a state of being (actually both), in the process spending massive amounts of money on our own conscious evolution, so we can be of better service to others. And then we need to eat, live, cloth ourselves and take care of our families…

So yes, we charge for our time and work and can guarantee people they’re loved, cared for and in good hands, not because they pay us, but because that’s who we’ve become.
.-= Maarten Elout´s last post … European sweat lodge teachings =-.

As a trainer, just want to say you had me at Answer #2.

The What is out there. (insert “X-Files” theme music.) Proper trainers/coaches/mentors provide the How, perhaps the Why, and sometimes the Where and When.

An analogy:
Did you read the user manual that came with some computer program you just purchased? Did you join the online community where people discuss problems and solutions for free?
Or did you pay some computer trainer big bucks to teach you how to bold words or merge cells or add a layer?
Yeah, so did I.

One more.
If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.