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		<title>By: Bridget</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like a good time stamp because when it comes, it lets me look back and see my progress up the hill.

And I like having to look forward to it with joy instead of seeing it out there with fear.

My new time stamp- Having the new improved bridgetpilloud.com up and roaring by the end of December. 

Woo-hoo.

Thanks Havi for taking the pain out of the time stamp!
.-= Bridget´s last post ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://bridgetpilloud.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/na-no-intuit-mo-using-your-intuition-to-face-a-potential-tragedy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Na-No-Intuit-Mo: Using your intuition to face a potential tragedy&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like a good time stamp because when it comes, it lets me look back and see my progress up the hill.</p>
<p>And I like having to look forward to it with joy instead of seeing it out there with fear.</p>
<p>My new time stamp- Having the new improved bridgetpilloud.com up and roaring by the end of December. </p>
<p>Woo-hoo.</p>
<p>Thanks Havi for taking the pain out of the time stamp!<br />
<span class="cluv"> Bridget´s last post &#8230; <a href="http://bridgetpilloud.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/na-no-intuit-mo-using-your-intuition-to-face-a-potential-tragedy/" rel="nofollow">Na-No-Intuit-Mo: Using your intuition to face a potential tragedy</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.fluentself.com/blog/mindful-time-management/timing-timing-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-10264</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A goal is a dream with a deadline.&quot;

First of all, I&#039;d like to thank Havi for coming up with the term &quot;timestamp.&quot;  &quot;Deadline&quot; sounds so, I don&#039;t know, ... 
   ... FINAL.

&quot;A goal is a dream with a timestamp.&quot;

There. Better.

The challenge that I have with this post is that it almost seems we&#039;re giving ourselves permission to miss the timestamp in advance.  I think that&#039;s counter-productive.  We set timestamps for a reason or two: 
 -- we want to accomplish something by a certain date.  
 -- timestamps allow us to work backwards to break down our project into smaller tasks.
 -- they focus our attention on a goal.
And all these things are important.

Rather, I think it&#039;s more important for us to forgive ourselves for missing timestamps for the very reason you mention: &quot;New shit can come to light.&quot;  @spiralsongkat shares the importance of this: &quot;Setting deadlines for myself, and then failing to meet them, repeatedly, has become such a source of shame and self-flagellation for me,...&quot;  

This is why we dread the deadline.  This is why we shy away from setting goals and timestamps for future projects. Because we&#039;re so ashamed of ourselves that we screwed up the last one.

Rather than set ourselves up for missing the timestamp by forgetting its very purpose, we should forgive ourselves wholeheartedly for missing it, and then figure out what it was that caused us to miss it.  
Did new stuff come to light? Yeah?  Then, that&#039;s cool.  What do you do now?  
Nothing new?  Where was the stuckness? Found it? Great! Now what do we do?

Because that&#039;s what biggification, non-stuckness, and having a conscious, intelligent, non-jerky relationship with yourself is about.

At least, that&#039;s how I see it.
.-= Paul´s last post ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://performancebydesign.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/days-of-wine-and-roses/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Days of Wine and Roses&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A goal is a dream with a deadline.&#8221;</p>
<p>First of all, I&#8217;d like to thank Havi for coming up with the term &#8220;timestamp.&#8221;  &#8220;Deadline&#8221; sounds so, I don&#8217;t know, &#8230;<br />
   &#8230; FINAL.</p>
<p>&#8220;A goal is a dream with a timestamp.&#8221;</p>
<p>There. Better.</p>
<p>The challenge that I have with this post is that it almost seems we&#8217;re giving ourselves permission to miss the timestamp in advance.  I think that&#8217;s counter-productive.  We set timestamps for a reason or two:<br />
 &#8212; we want to accomplish something by a certain date.<br />
 &#8212; timestamps allow us to work backwards to break down our project into smaller tasks.<br />
 &#8212; they focus our attention on a goal.<br />
And all these things are important.</p>
<p>Rather, I think it&#8217;s more important for us to forgive ourselves for missing timestamps for the very reason you mention: &#8220;New shit can come to light.&#8221;  @spiralsongkat shares the importance of this: &#8220;Setting deadlines for myself, and then failing to meet them, repeatedly, has become such a source of shame and self-flagellation for me,&#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>This is why we dread the deadline.  This is why we shy away from setting goals and timestamps for future projects. Because we&#8217;re so ashamed of ourselves that we screwed up the last one.</p>
<p>Rather than set ourselves up for missing the timestamp by forgetting its very purpose, we should forgive ourselves wholeheartedly for missing it, and then figure out what it was that caused us to miss it.<br />
Did new stuff come to light? Yeah?  Then, that&#8217;s cool.  What do you do now?<br />
Nothing new?  Where was the stuckness? Found it? Great! Now what do we do?</p>
<p>Because that&#8217;s what biggification, non-stuckness, and having a conscious, intelligent, non-jerky relationship with yourself is about.</p>
<p>At least, that&#8217;s how I see it.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Paul´s last post &#8230; <a href="http://performancebydesign.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/days-of-wine-and-roses/" rel="nofollow">Days of Wine and Roses</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Lightheart @alightheart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Lightheart @alightheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have more to say (having slept on it...)

I was pushing myself to a new dead...*timestamp* on a project and realised that what I really needed was...

Crap.

Start again.

I&#039;m setting up a new site with nerdy analysis of presentations on it.

I thought I needed a timestamp for launch.

What I *really* need is a quantity-stamp. ie When I have 14 presentations already done, THEN I can launch.

So then I feel more in control of when things happen - I can go faster if I feel like it, or slower and I&#039;m not going to die, or sabotage myself with the opportunity to feel shit.

Might not always apply, but seems sensible with this particular project.

*blushes and grins with eyes shut and tries not to hold breath at being Havi&#039;s Right People*
.-= Andrew Lightheart @alightheart´s last post ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apeacefulresolution.com/2009/11/20/friday-list-3/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Friday list #3 – Yay four and half steps!&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have more to say (having slept on it&#8230;)</p>
<p>I was pushing myself to a new dead&#8230;*timestamp* on a project and realised that what I really needed was&#8230;</p>
<p>Crap.</p>
<p>Start again.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m setting up a new site with nerdy analysis of presentations on it.</p>
<p>I thought I needed a timestamp for launch.</p>
<p>What I *really* need is a quantity-stamp. ie When I have 14 presentations already done, THEN I can launch.</p>
<p>So then I feel more in control of when things happen &#8211; I can go faster if I feel like it, or slower and I&#8217;m not going to die, or sabotage myself with the opportunity to feel shit.</p>
<p>Might not always apply, but seems sensible with this particular project.</p>
<p>*blushes and grins with eyes shut and tries not to hold breath at being Havi&#8217;s Right People*<br />
<span class="cluv"> Andrew Lightheart @alightheart´s last post &#8230; <a href="http://www.apeacefulresolution.com/2009/11/20/friday-list-3/" rel="nofollow">Friday list #3 – Yay four and half steps!</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: Josiane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josiane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was very timely, both for the part of me that&#039;s still hoping against all hope that my thing will be out of my head and into the world by the end of this month, and for the part of me that thinks there&#039;s no way I&#039;m going to make it by that (newish) timestamp, no more than I made it by the previous ones...

@Inge: &quot;I can set a date to finish a Thing and understand how many days that is from now, but at the same time I have no idea how much hanging around in unstructuredness it will take until the Thing starts to take shape and can be finished. In the end, the Thing counts, not how and by what time I get there.&quot; --&gt;  Yes!  That&#039;s it, exactly!  Thank you for putting it up so eloquently.
.-= Josiane´s last post ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://kimianak.posterous.com/noticing-the-dragonfly-edition&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Noticing - the dragonfly edition&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was very timely, both for the part of me that&#8217;s still hoping against all hope that my thing will be out of my head and into the world by the end of this month, and for the part of me that thinks there&#8217;s no way I&#8217;m going to make it by that (newish) timestamp, no more than I made it by the previous ones&#8230;</p>
<p>@Inge: &#8220;I can set a date to finish a Thing and understand how many days that is from now, but at the same time I have no idea how much hanging around in unstructuredness it will take until the Thing starts to take shape and can be finished. In the end, the Thing counts, not how and by what time I get there.&#8221; &#8211;&gt;  Yes!  That&#8217;s it, exactly!  Thank you for putting it up so eloquently.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Josiane´s last post &#8230; <a href="http://kimianak.posterous.com/noticing-the-dragonfly-edition" rel="nofollow">Noticing &#8211; the dragonfly edition</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Banging against timestamps large and small (mine and others&#039;, but mostly mine) all over the place here now. Really appreciating this post. Thank you!
.-= Sandra´s last post ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://japandra.blogspot.com/2009/11/blog-post_18.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sounds curdly&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Banging against timestamps large and small (mine and others&#8217;, but mostly mine) all over the place here now. Really appreciating this post. Thank you!<br />
<span class="cluv"> Sandra´s last post &#8230; <a href="http://japandra.blogspot.com/2009/11/blog-post_18.html" rel="nofollow">Sounds curdly</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: spiralsongkat</title>
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		<dc:creator>spiralsongkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooooo...this is a triggery topic for me.  Setting deadlines for myself, and then failing to meet them, &lt;i&gt;repeatedly&lt;/i&gt;, has become such a source of shame and self-flagellation for me, I am struggling to believe that your wonderfully soothing reassurances truly apply to me.  To everyone else, yes, absolutely -- but to me?

I want to believe it.  I will try.

I suppose it&#039;s all a part of learning to look at my patterns, and not be impressed.  Thanks for helping me with that.
.-= spiralsongkat´s last post ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://spiralsongkat.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/blogging-in-the-dark/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blogging in the dark&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooo&#8230;this is a triggery topic for me.  Setting deadlines for myself, and then failing to meet them, <i>repeatedly</i>, has become such a source of shame and self-flagellation for me, I am struggling to believe that your wonderfully soothing reassurances truly apply to me.  To everyone else, yes, absolutely &#8212; but to me?</p>
<p>I want to believe it.  I will try.</p>
<p>I suppose it&#8217;s all a part of learning to look at my patterns, and not be impressed.  Thanks for helping me with that.<br />
<span class="cluv"> spiralsongkat´s last post &#8230; <a href="http://spiralsongkat.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/blogging-in-the-dark/" rel="nofollow">Blogging in the dark</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: Havi Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Havi Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;img src=&quot;http://fluentself.com/images/blog/ducks/Selma_tinyB.png&quot;&gt; 
@Christine - hee! &quot;Oh no! I&#039;m going to be at least three days late on being able to like myself! Crap!&quot;

And yeah, if deadlines help you, god bless you. Use them and flourish!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://fluentself.com/images/blog/ducks/Selma_tinyB.png"/><br />
@Christine &#8211; hee! &#8220;Oh no! I&#8217;m going to be at least three days late on being able to like myself! Crap!&#8221;</p>
<p>And yeah, if deadlines help you, god bless you. Use them and flourish!</p>
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		<title>By: Mahala Mazerov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mahala Mazerov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I had a timestamp. And the timestamp wasn’t all that relevant. What was relevant was the dream. The thing I was giving myself permission to ask for.&quot;

!!!

Love you.
.-= Mahala Mazerov´s last post ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://luminousheart.com/2009/11/meditation-tender-heart/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tender Edges of Your Heart&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I had a timestamp. And the timestamp wasn’t all that relevant. What was relevant was the dream. The thing I was giving myself permission to ask for.&#8221;</p>
<p>!!!</p>
<p>Love you.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Mahala Mazerov´s last post &#8230; <a href="http://luminousheart.com/2009/11/meditation-tender-heart/" rel="nofollow">Tender Edges of Your Heart</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: Christine Bougie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine Bougie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Sally J...I need deadlines to make things happen.  That being said, I absolutely dread the 48 hours leading up to those deadlines! 

Thank god there are no deadlines/&quot;timestamps&quot; for working on your stuff.  That would be horrible...and funny.  Imagine: &quot;Dec 14th - Finished with fear of failure&quot;
.-= Christine Bougie´s last post ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.christinebougie.com/limits/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Limits&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Sally J&#8230;I need deadlines to make things happen.  That being said, I absolutely dread the 48 hours leading up to those deadlines! </p>
<p>Thank god there are no deadlines/&#8221;timestamps&#8221; for working on your stuff.  That would be horrible&#8230;and funny.  Imagine: &#8220;Dec 14th &#8211; Finished with fear of failure&#8221;<br />
<span class="cluv"> Christine Bougie´s last post &#8230; <a href="http://www.christinebougie.com/limits/" rel="nofollow">Limits</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually take great comfort in the fact that I&#039;m probably wrong anyways. It takes some of the pressure off. So if I don&#039;t meet my timestamp because I chose the wrong one, it&#039;s OK. I know more now than I did then, so trying to keep to a schedule that doesn&#039;t make sense isn&#039;t necessary. It makes me feel less like hiding and crying, anyways.
.-= Amber´s last post ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.strocel.com/self-promotion-is-no-fun/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Self-Promotion Is No Fun&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually take great comfort in the fact that I&#8217;m probably wrong anyways. It takes some of the pressure off. So if I don&#8217;t meet my timestamp because I chose the wrong one, it&#8217;s OK. I know more now than I did then, so trying to keep to a schedule that doesn&#8217;t make sense isn&#8217;t necessary. It makes me feel less like hiding and crying, anyways.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Amber´s last post &#8230; <a href="http://www.strocel.com/self-promotion-is-no-fun/" rel="nofollow">Self-Promotion Is No Fun</a> </span></p>
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