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		<title>By: Alicia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wow. Someone I respect totally groks the buzzy force field. Another good place for those is Quaker weddings. They can lift off the top of your head, in a good way. 

Am realizing how I&#039;ve been avoiding outing my woo in front of &quot;normal&quot; people. Hmmm.

And Sanders? Everyone loves you. Not just ducks :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow. Someone I respect totally groks the buzzy force field. Another good place for those is Quaker weddings. They can lift off the top of your head, in a good way. </p>
<p>Am realizing how I&#8217;ve been avoiding outing my woo in front of &#8220;normal&#8221; people. Hmmm.</p>
<p>And Sanders? Everyone loves you. Not just ducks :)</p>
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		<title>By: Sanders</title>
		<link>http://www.fluentself.com/blog/biggification/we-interrupt-our-scheduled-programming/comment-page-1/#comment-10789</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Selma loves me? YOOHOO!!!

Right now, I&#039;m in Niger (north of Nigeria) and wish I could go to the retreat...

About &quot;That thing you do when the room gets all buzzy and tingly? Like the crazy force field effect?&quot; Totally true. At least for me. I was at the North Carolina retreat and saw Havi Shiva dance one evening, as part of her end of week ritual: the room was INDEED all buzzy and tingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Selma loves me? YOOHOO!!!</p>
<p>Right now, I&#8217;m in Niger (north of Nigeria) and wish I could go to the retreat&#8230;</p>
<p>About &#8220;That thing you do when the room gets all buzzy and tingly? Like the crazy force field effect?&#8221; Totally true. At least for me. I was at the North Carolina retreat and saw Havi Shiva dance one evening, as part of her end of week ritual: the room was INDEED all buzzy and tingly.</p>
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		<title>By: creativevoyage</title>
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		<dc:creator>creativevoyage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m one of those people who went to a retreat and hated the facilitators and other participants so much that I walked two hours to the nearest bus stop rather than share a car with them. The thought of being trapped in a metal box with these people....

(so there !)

However I do think that there is something different about in person stuff to via phone or via audio which is one of the reasons why I still facilitate and teach in person rather than do virtual courses despite one of my friends urging me down this route.
.-= creativevoyage´s last post ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://creativevoyage.co.uk/node/357&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Retinal Perspectives&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m one of those people who went to a retreat and hated the facilitators and other participants so much that I walked two hours to the nearest bus stop rather than share a car with them. The thought of being trapped in a metal box with these people&#8230;.</p>
<p>(so there !)</p>
<p>However I do think that there is something different about in person stuff to via phone or via audio which is one of the reasons why I still facilitate and teach in person rather than do virtual courses despite one of my friends urging me down this route.<br />
.-= creativevoyage´s last post &#8230; <a href="http://creativevoyage.co.uk/node/357" rel="nofollow">Retinal Perspectives</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://www.fluentself.com/blog/biggification/we-interrupt-our-scheduled-programming/comment-page-1/#comment-10785</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Heidi - Hah! Yeah, I bet that&#039;s it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Heidi &#8211; Hah! Yeah, I bet that&#8217;s it!</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andrew - Now that&#039;s interesting, &#039;space clearing&#039; doesn&#039;t make me eye-roll at all. (I&#039;m sure it would make tons of people eye-roll, but it doesn&#039;t bother me at all - we must have a kosher scale of mystical jargon going on here!)

I think it&#039;s because it&#039;s descriptive of what it actually is. When you&#039;re clearing space, that&#039;s what you&#039;re actually doing, clearing out bad stuff. Whereas &#039;holding the space&#039; just doesn&#039;t *mean* anything to me. It&#039;s so *vague*. It doesn&#039;t describe what it is. What are you holding? Nothing! 

So we could say &#039;creating energy&#039; or &#039;building an atmosphere&#039; or &#039;setting a group intention&#039;, or any number of things that are clearly no less wanky than phrases involving space, but they wouldn&#039;t bother me because they&#039;re actually descriptive. (Though I would need to put air quotes round the word &#039;energy&#039;, for my own personal sanity. :) )

And now I&#039;m going to stop, because waffling about whether or not a phrase sounds wanky to me is clearly in and of itself wanky. And I&#039;ve used the word wanky, like, a zillion times on this page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andrew &#8211; Now that&#8217;s interesting, &#8216;space clearing&#8217; doesn&#8217;t make me eye-roll at all. (I&#8217;m sure it would make tons of people eye-roll, but it doesn&#8217;t bother me at all &#8211; we must have a kosher scale of mystical jargon going on here!)</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s because it&#8217;s descriptive of what it actually is. When you&#8217;re clearing space, that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re actually doing, clearing out bad stuff. Whereas &#8216;holding the space&#8217; just doesn&#8217;t *mean* anything to me. It&#8217;s so *vague*. It doesn&#8217;t describe what it is. What are you holding? Nothing! </p>
<p>So we could say &#8216;creating energy&#8217; or &#8216;building an atmosphere&#8217; or &#8216;setting a group intention&#8217;, or any number of things that are clearly no less wanky than phrases involving space, but they wouldn&#8217;t bother me because they&#8217;re actually descriptive. (Though I would need to put air quotes round the word &#8216;energy&#8217;, for my own personal sanity. :) )</p>
<p>And now I&#8217;m going to stop, because waffling about whether or not a phrase sounds wanky to me is clearly in and of itself wanky. And I&#8217;ve used the word wanky, like, a zillion times on this page.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Lightheart @alightheart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Lightheart @alightheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These comments, *THESE* comments have been the most fun I&#039;ve read so far. Like, ever.

Maybe I&#039;m just feeling the glow of my Mother-in-law&#039;s lounge (and it&#039;s a pretty good buzz, let me tell you) but I&#039;m *loving* being part of the comment-mice here.

And I want to go through and @ at people, quoting and saying, &#039;Yes!&#039; and stuff.

But I&#039;m jet-lagged.

I am, however, going to come out.

Ready?

***
I hold the space.
***

(Well, I *did* train as a space clearer with Karen Kingston, so it&#039;s hardly surprising...)

I even *say* &#039;hold the space&#039;, but not to my corporate types.

Oh, and the buzzy, sparky room thing?

The first time S saw me do that he was like: Seriously? Can you do that? With people with C-something-O in their job title?

(I even get them to close their eyes. I know. Cutting edge.)

And the alone time? Especially important when you&#039;re *running* the event.

Though if the people are cool, I have to force myself to have alone time because I just want to hang out and chat and play chubby bunnies (Chubby Bunnies!). And then I regret not having a bit of shhh-alone time, to recharge.

When I get around to running a conflict-resolution-y retreat-advance-stay, it&#039;s *so* going to be a slumber party.

Pyjama-high-five!
.-= Andrew Lightheart @alightheart´s last post ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apeacefulresolution.com/2009/11/30/speak-mindfully/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Speak mindfully&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These comments, *THESE* comments have been the most fun I&#8217;ve read so far. Like, ever.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m just feeling the glow of my Mother-in-law&#8217;s lounge (and it&#8217;s a pretty good buzz, let me tell you) but I&#8217;m *loving* being part of the comment-mice here.</p>
<p>And I want to go through and @ at people, quoting and saying, &#8216;Yes!&#8217; and stuff.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m jet-lagged.</p>
<p>I am, however, going to come out.</p>
<p>Ready?</p>
<p>***<br />
I hold the space.<br />
***</p>
<p>(Well, I *did* train as a space clearer with Karen Kingston, so it&#8217;s hardly surprising&#8230;)</p>
<p>I even *say* &#8216;hold the space&#8217;, but not to my corporate types.</p>
<p>Oh, and the buzzy, sparky room thing?</p>
<p>The first time S saw me do that he was like: Seriously? Can you do that? With people with C-something-O in their job title?</p>
<p>(I even get them to close their eyes. I know. Cutting edge.)</p>
<p>And the alone time? Especially important when you&#8217;re *running* the event.</p>
<p>Though if the people are cool, I have to force myself to have alone time because I just want to hang out and chat and play chubby bunnies (Chubby Bunnies!). And then I regret not having a bit of shhh-alone time, to recharge.</p>
<p>When I get around to running a conflict-resolution-y retreat-advance-stay, it&#8217;s *so* going to be a slumber party.</p>
<p>Pyjama-high-five!<br />
.-= Andrew Lightheart @alightheart´s last post &#8230; <a href="http://www.apeacefulresolution.com/2009/11/30/speak-mindfully/" rel="nofollow">Speak mindfully</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Heidi Fischbach (@curiousHeidiHi)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heidi Fischbach (@curiousHeidiHi)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kate   Bob! Awesome. (*stage whisper* I think this here that you&#039;re getting at is how God went and got his name. I&#039;ve pro&#039;ly just offended all the people of 3 major religions. Ooooops. Bye now.)
.-= Heidi Fischbach (@curiousHeidiHi)´s last post ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://babayagasplace.squarespace.com/heidi-musings/2009/11/13/me-and-an-aardvark-getting-down-to-business-heidi-is-biggify.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Me and an aardvark, getting down to business. (Heidi is biggifying!)&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kate   Bob! Awesome. (*stage whisper* I think this here that you&#8217;re getting at is how God went and got his name. I&#8217;ve pro&#8217;ly just offended all the people of 3 major religions. Ooooops. Bye now.)<br />
.-= Heidi Fischbach (@curiousHeidiHi)´s last post &#8230; <a href="http://babayagasplace.squarespace.com/heidi-musings/2009/11/13/me-and-an-aardvark-getting-down-to-business-heidi-is-biggify.html" rel="nofollow">Me and an aardvark, getting down to business. (Heidi is biggifying!)</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erika Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kate - And the opposite of eye-roll?  Maybe swoon... &#039;cause that&#039;s what I&#039;m doing right now, with your very kind and super-helpful explanation.  I think my being over-exposed to the snarky, exclusive kind of eye-roll had me blind to a friendly use of it.  &#039;Til now.  Thanks so much for one of the nicest perspective-shifts, Kate!

And my apologies to everyone for this extended interruption of the original interruption.  And now back to retreats!  Like treats x 2 :-)  Havi, your Destuckification Retreat definitely sounds like a treat x 2.
.-= Erika Harris´s last post ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://lifeblazing.com/2009/11/26/happy-1-year-birthday-joyful-work-for-sensitive-people/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Happy 1-Year Birthday, Joyful Work for Sensitive People!&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kate &#8211; And the opposite of eye-roll?  Maybe swoon&#8230; &#8217;cause that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m doing right now, with your very kind and super-helpful explanation.  I think my being over-exposed to the snarky, exclusive kind of eye-roll had me blind to a friendly use of it.  &#8216;Til now.  Thanks so much for one of the nicest perspective-shifts, Kate!</p>
<p>And my apologies to everyone for this extended interruption of the original interruption.  And now back to retreats!  Like treats x 2 :-)  Havi, your Destuckification Retreat definitely sounds like a treat x 2.<br />
.-= Erika Harris´s last post &#8230; <a href="http://lifeblazing.com/2009/11/26/happy-1-year-birthday-joyful-work-for-sensitive-people/" rel="nofollow">Happy 1-Year Birthday, Joyful Work for Sensitive People!</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Havi--wow, just looked at the schedule.

THAT SOUNDS AWESOME.  :) :) :) :) :) :) 

That is so &quot;what I would look for in a retreat schedule.&quot;
.-= Blue´s last post ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://educatingblue.wordpress.com/2009/12/02/two-quotes-from-finite-and-infinite-games/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Two Quotes from Finite and Infinite Games&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Havi&#8211;wow, just looked at the schedule.</p>
<p>THAT SOUNDS AWESOME.  :) :) :) :) :) :) </p>
<p>That is so &#8220;what I would look for in a retreat schedule.&#8221;<br />
.-= Blue´s last post &#8230; <a href="http://educatingblue.wordpress.com/2009/12/02/two-quotes-from-finite-and-infinite-games/" rel="nofollow">Two Quotes from Finite and Infinite Games</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Erika - I totally know what you mean, for which reason I wouldn&#039;t eye-roll at a stranger, because they would clearly assume I thought they were an idiot, or something. Whereas with my friends, we know we can all eye-roll at each other&#039;s odd phrases and that we&#039;re really just sharing a joke about the inadequacy of language. I would just love that understanding to exist in more places. For there to be more places where I know people will hear the air-quotes when I say, for example, &#039;energy&#039;, and know that it&#039;s not intended as disrespect or flippancy, but just shorthand for, &#039;I wish there were a better word for this, but there isn&#039;t, so we&#039;ll use this for now, with the proviso that we don&#039;t get so attached to it that we start mistaking the finger for the moon.&#039;

All kinds of jargon are alienating, and eye-rolling is a way to counter that, but you&#039;re quite right that it would need to be fond, playful, inclusive &#039;we all get this joke&#039; eye-rolling, not exclusive &#039;you&#039;re such a muppet&#039; eye-rolling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Erika &#8211; I totally know what you mean, for which reason I wouldn&#8217;t eye-roll at a stranger, because they would clearly assume I thought they were an idiot, or something. Whereas with my friends, we know we can all eye-roll at each other&#8217;s odd phrases and that we&#8217;re really just sharing a joke about the inadequacy of language. I would just love that understanding to exist in more places. For there to be more places where I know people will hear the air-quotes when I say, for example, &#8216;energy&#8217;, and know that it&#8217;s not intended as disrespect or flippancy, but just shorthand for, &#8216;I wish there were a better word for this, but there isn&#8217;t, so we&#8217;ll use this for now, with the proviso that we don&#8217;t get so attached to it that we start mistaking the finger for the moon.&#8217;</p>
<p>All kinds of jargon are alienating, and eye-rolling is a way to counter that, but you&#8217;re quite right that it would need to be fond, playful, inclusive &#8216;we all get this joke&#8217; eye-rolling, not exclusive &#8216;you&#8217;re such a muppet&#8217; eye-rolling.</p>
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