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	<title>Comments on: Ask Havi #8: the &#8220;what&#8217;s my vision&#8221; edition</title>
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		<title>By: Sherri</title>
		<link>http://www.fluentself.com/blog/ask-havi/vision-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-4185</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize I&#039;m commenting on a post that is more than 6 months old.  It&#039;s a great post, though.  I, too, had read the &quot;is this you?&quot; page and came to the same conclusion as your inquirer.  It&#039;s not quite me... yet.  

I&#039;m still figuring out my thing.  In the meantime, I continue reading your site daily nodding in agreement, laughing, trying some of your techniques.  I want to be a part of your programs and talk with the amazing people that seem to congregate here.  Until I decide my purpose, I will humbly loiter in the background, feeling safe in the haven you have created.  

Keep up the great work, Havi!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sherris last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://sherrileigh.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/photo-friday-peaceful-garden/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Photo Friday: Peaceful Garden&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize I&#8217;m commenting on a post that is more than 6 months old.  It&#8217;s a great post, though.  I, too, had read the &#8220;is this you?&#8221; page and came to the same conclusion as your inquirer.  It&#8217;s not quite me&#8230; yet.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still figuring out my thing.  In the meantime, I continue reading your site daily nodding in agreement, laughing, trying some of your techniques.  I want to be a part of your programs and talk with the amazing people that seem to congregate here.  Until I decide my purpose, I will humbly loiter in the background, feeling safe in the haven you have created.  </p>
<p>Keep up the great work, Havi!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Sherris last blog post..<a href="http://sherrileigh.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/photo-friday-peaceful-garden/" rel="nofollow">Photo Friday: Peaceful Garden</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Louden</title>
		<link>http://www.fluentself.com/blog/ask-havi/vision-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-725</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Louden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it&#039;s all about being there first and then choosing... otherwise I end up feeling I&#039;ve done violence to myself and I end up being very grumpy and negative. And that&#039;s not pretty. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it&#8217;s all about being there first and then choosing&#8230; otherwise I end up feeling I&#8217;ve done violence to myself and I end up being very grumpy and negative. And that&#8217;s not pretty. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Havi Brooks</title>
		<link>http://www.fluentself.com/blog/ask-havi/vision-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-719</link>
		<dc:creator>Havi Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jen - Whoops, I missed that! Yes, yes, yes. That is a huge problem in the life-coach-ey community ... this pressure to LOVE what you do and have it be 100% blissful every second of the time. 

When in fact, even when your job is full of awesomeness, there are always going to be parts that are challenging or stuck or don&#039;t work. And you&#039;re always going to be working on how to make parts of it better or less horrible.

Sorry to hear about your awful job! Ugh to being a literary agent in LA and double-ugh to letting outside forces put pressure on us to be happy when sometimes what we need most is to acknowledge the UNhappy and spend a little time with it giving it attention and comfort.

That&#039;s where I think Neil&#039;s distinction is really sweet and beautiful (even if, as I said, not all of us are going to be ready for it in the moment) ... because it&#039;s about redirecting attention to the moments when it&#039;s possible to choose some love, choose some comfort, choose some positive. 

And when you&#039;ve sat with the pain a little and you&#039;re ready to receive some help, it&#039;s so so wonderful to know that hey, it&#039;s right there waiting for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jen &#8211; Whoops, I missed that! Yes, yes, yes. That is a huge problem in the life-coach-ey community &#8230; this pressure to LOVE what you do and have it be 100% blissful every second of the time. </p>
<p>When in fact, even when your job is full of awesomeness, there are always going to be parts that are challenging or stuck or don&#8217;t work. And you&#8217;re always going to be working on how to make parts of it better or less horrible.</p>
<p>Sorry to hear about your awful job! Ugh to being a literary agent in LA and double-ugh to letting outside forces put pressure on us to be happy when sometimes what we need most is to acknowledge the UNhappy and spend a little time with it giving it attention and comfort.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s where I think Neil&#8217;s distinction is really sweet and beautiful (even if, as I said, not all of us are going to be ready for it in the moment) &#8230; because it&#8217;s about redirecting attention to the moments when it&#8217;s possible to choose some love, choose some comfort, choose some positive. </p>
<p>And when you&#8217;ve sat with the pain a little and you&#8217;re ready to receive some help, it&#8217;s so so wonderful to know that hey, it&#8217;s right there waiting for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Havi Brooks</title>
		<link>http://www.fluentself.com/blog/ask-havi/vision-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-718</link>
		<dc:creator>Havi Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Neil - That&#039;s a really great point, and you&#039;re right about the fact that in &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; sense, yes, we are what we do. 

At the same time, I feel moved to point out that when you&#039;re in the stuckness, sometimes &lt;em&gt;knowing&lt;/em&gt; that -- even if it is true, which it mayh be -- is not necessarily always helpful. It &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; be, for some people, and it won&#039;t be for a lot of people. 

When I was in the situation I described, I also thought about that particular angle of the &quot;you are what you do&quot; thing. And had long talks about it with my yoga teacher. At that point in my life, I wasn&#039;t able to receive comfort from that thought. 

Even though I was sometimes able to say &quot;yes, here I am smiling and this is also me being what I do, here I am breathing and this is also what I do ...&quot;, I &lt;em&gt;knew&lt;/em&gt; I was still miserable, and not being able to apply this concept was just a source of yet more guilt and frustration.

When you get on a bus to go to work -- and in Israel you don&#039;t get on a bus without some part of your brain reminding you that this might be the last bus you ever take -- and your first thought is &quot;Well, if the bus explodes and I die, at least I won&#039;t have to go to work!&quot; and your second thought is &quot;Well, if the bus explodes and I don&#039;t die, at least I&#039;ll be on disability and won&#039;t have to go to work!&quot; ... that&#039;s a sign that you need a bigger change than an attitude shift.

Because sometimes you&#039;re in so deep that you can&#039;t work the attitude shift, and if you think you &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; be able to, you just get more stuck, you know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Neil &#8211; That&#8217;s a really great point, and you&#8217;re right about the fact that in <em>that</em> sense, yes, we are what we do. </p>
<p>At the same time, I feel moved to point out that when you&#8217;re in the stuckness, sometimes <em>knowing</em> that &#8212; even if it is true, which it mayh be &#8212; is not necessarily always helpful. It <em>could</em> be, for some people, and it won&#8217;t be for a lot of people. </p>
<p>When I was in the situation I described, I also thought about that particular angle of the &#8220;you are what you do&#8221; thing. And had long talks about it with my yoga teacher. At that point in my life, I wasn&#8217;t able to receive comfort from that thought. </p>
<p>Even though I was sometimes able to say &#8220;yes, here I am smiling and this is also me being what I do, here I am breathing and this is also what I do &#8230;&#8221;, I <em>knew</em> I was still miserable, and not being able to apply this concept was just a source of yet more guilt and frustration.</p>
<p>When you get on a bus to go to work &#8212; and in Israel you don&#8217;t get on a bus without some part of your brain reminding you that this might be the last bus you ever take &#8212; and your first thought is &#8220;Well, if the bus explodes and I die, at least I won&#8217;t have to go to work!&#8221; and your second thought is &#8220;Well, if the bus explodes and I don&#8217;t die, at least I&#8217;ll be on disability and won&#8217;t have to go to work!&#8221; &#8230; that&#8217;s a sign that you need a bigger change than an attitude shift.</p>
<p>Because sometimes you&#8217;re in so deep that you can&#8217;t work the attitude shift, and if you think you <em>should</em> be able to, you just get more stuck, you know?</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Louden</title>
		<link>http://www.fluentself.com/blog/ask-havi/vision-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-716</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Louden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so hard to be in the non-passionate place and i think a lot of people feel even worse being there because the self-help coach world can make it sound like if you aren&#039;t blissed out 24/7, you&#039;re missing out. i find doing what you love for work much, much more about adjusting my own attitude than anything i&#039;m actually doing... although i only had a job 1/4 as bad as yours for the mad CEO...  mad literary agent in LA... still gives me nightmares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so hard to be in the non-passionate place and i think a lot of people feel even worse being there because the self-help coach world can make it sound like if you aren&#8217;t blissed out 24/7, you&#8217;re missing out. i find doing what you love for work much, much more about adjusting my own attitude than anything i&#8217;m actually doing&#8230; although i only had a job 1/4 as bad as yours for the mad CEO&#8230;  mad literary agent in LA&#8230; still gives me nightmares.</p>
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		<title>By: neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Havi, your blog and approach in general are lovely and really useful, I am a new reader and loving every word of it.

Although...I have to disagree with you on one point.

&quot;You are what you do&quot;

I totally agree with the statement.

However, not in the terms that you disagree with it.  We ARE what we do, in the terms of we are defined by the total of our ACTIONS, the way we speak, make tea, sew on buttons, cut vegetables, order our to do lists etc.  

If we wish to be beautiful then all our actions must add up to being beautiful and we will fail to BE beautiful until we always DO beautiful.

We can create who we are in every moment...if only we choose to do so.

But 

This doesnt mean that we are our JOB, although it is part of us, like everything else however, we can choose to be how we want in that situation.

Thank you for helping make life easier and adding positive stuff to my life.

Best regards

Neil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Havi, your blog and approach in general are lovely and really useful, I am a new reader and loving every word of it.</p>
<p>Although&#8230;I have to disagree with you on one point.</p>
<p>&#8220;You are what you do&#8221;</p>
<p>I totally agree with the statement.</p>
<p>However, not in the terms that you disagree with it.  We ARE what we do, in the terms of we are defined by the total of our ACTIONS, the way we speak, make tea, sew on buttons, cut vegetables, order our to do lists etc.  </p>
<p>If we wish to be beautiful then all our actions must add up to being beautiful and we will fail to BE beautiful until we always DO beautiful.</p>
<p>We can create who we are in every moment&#8230;if only we choose to do so.</p>
<p>But </p>
<p>This doesnt mean that we are our JOB, although it is part of us, like everything else however, we can choose to be how we want in that situation.</p>
<p>Thank you for helping make life easier and adding positive stuff to my life.</p>
<p>Best regards</p>
<p>Neil</p>
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		<title>By: Becca</title>
		<link>http://www.fluentself.com/blog/ask-havi/vision-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-714</link>
		<dc:creator>Becca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was in a situation that sounds similar to the writer&#039;s, what helped me was realizing that I was afraid to admit what I wanted. I believe we all know this in our heart-of-hearts, and sometimes we feel so hurt by life that we protect this information, even from ourselves, odd though that may sound!

One specific step that really helped me, was doing some aptitude testing (emphasis on &#039;aptitude&#039; and contrasting from &#039;interest&#039;--I personally found interest assessments to have a really bad influence on my state of mind). The Johnson O&#039;Connor group and also Rockport are two places that provide this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was in a situation that sounds similar to the writer&#8217;s, what helped me was realizing that I was afraid to admit what I wanted. I believe we all know this in our heart-of-hearts, and sometimes we feel so hurt by life that we protect this information, even from ourselves, odd though that may sound!</p>
<p>One specific step that really helped me, was doing some aptitude testing (emphasis on &#8216;aptitude&#8217; and contrasting from &#8216;interest&#8217;&#8211;I personally found interest assessments to have a really bad influence on my state of mind). The Johnson O&#8217;Connor group and also Rockport are two places that provide this.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Watkins</title>
		<link>http://www.fluentself.com/blog/ask-havi/vision-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-713</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Watkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read, and have read, an enormous number of blogs.  Havi, yours is one of the best on the planet.  I sympathize with your anonymous reader and your suggestions are helpful for me too.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read, and have read, an enormous number of blogs.  Havi, yours is one of the best on the planet.  I sympathize with your anonymous reader and your suggestions are helpful for me too.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Navarro</title>
		<link>http://www.fluentself.com/blog/ask-havi/vision-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-712</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Navarro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You are what you do.&quot;

Five of the worst words that can be strung together ... and five easy words to believe.

One of the hardest lessons in my life involved moving past this (and some days, it&#039;s still not easy).

Fight the good fight :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You are what you do.&#8221;</p>
<p>Five of the worst words that can be strung together &#8230; and five easy words to believe.</p>
<p>One of the hardest lessons in my life involved moving past this (and some days, it&#8217;s still not easy).</p>
<p>Fight the good fight :-)</p>
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		<title>By: JoVE</title>
		<link>http://www.fluentself.com/blog/ask-havi/vision-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-711</link>
		<dc:creator>JoVE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And if I&#039;m not in joyful mode, there&#039;s not really much of a point. I used to feel bad about this until I realized that lots of people LOVE working on this exact process!

Moral of this little story: the best way to screw up doing what you love is to start doing the parts that you don&#039;t love.&quot;

Exactly. I am so happy that I have found at least one other person that believes this. So much of the unhappiness in this world is the result of people thinking that doing work you love is an unreasonable objective.

And then there are the people I work with who are usually in jobs where they have lots of autonomy and at least part of the work is work they love and they are not finding the time to do the parts they love AND telling themselves stories about how those parts are really about doing things they have to do for others. Which is where I come in.

JoVEs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://jove.homeschooljournal.net/2008/09/20/other-things-going-on/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;other things going on&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And if I&#8217;m not in joyful mode, there&#8217;s not really much of a point. I used to feel bad about this until I realized that lots of people LOVE working on this exact process!</p>
<p>Moral of this little story: the best way to screw up doing what you love is to start doing the parts that you don&#8217;t love.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly. I am so happy that I have found at least one other person that believes this. So much of the unhappiness in this world is the result of people thinking that doing work you love is an unreasonable objective.</p>
<p>And then there are the people I work with who are usually in jobs where they have lots of autonomy and at least part of the work is work they love and they are not finding the time to do the parts they love AND telling themselves stories about how those parts are really about doing things they have to do for others. Which is where I come in.</p>
<p>JoVEs last blog post..<a href="http://jove.homeschooljournal.net/2008/09/20/other-things-going-on/" rel="nofollow">other things going on</a></p>
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